Wire vs Composite Structural Furling Forestays

Published Date: August 29 2018

Maffioli furling plus Karver KF12

 

In our previous blog, we explained what we meant by the term “structural furling forestay”. In this article we look at when to use traditional wire vs a composite cable as the torsional stay.

 

Structural forestay furling systems using a normal wire stay are available on the market for boat lengths of up to approx. 10-11 m and a maximum of 7 mm wire diameter. If you look closely at the way a wire cable is made, it is wound in a spiral which lends itself quite nicely to handle torsional furling loads.

It should be noted that wires must be furled in one direction only. This is no different to composite cables, which rely on off-axis braid fibre alignment for their torsional strength / stiffness. For optimum performance any furling stay (wire or composite) should only be furled in a single direction.

 

At the upper 7 mm wire limit, a Dyform wire construction is preferable as this has a much more robust construction with fewer individual wire strands which are prone to break, resulting in potential tear hazards on standard 1x19 wire.
(N.B. we have supplied 8mm Dyform structural furling forestays but halyard swivels are not available at this size) which means the genoa is permanently lashed at the head

 

Above 11 m boat length and 7 mm wire diameter most manufacturers recommend a switch to a composite torsional cable as the structural furling forestay.

Benefits of wire structural forestays

Re-use existing forestay

  • Your existing forestay can normally be used in the new system with a  karver KFX
    small length adjustment, which can be done by any good local rigger

Cost

  • Because you are re-using your wire forestay, costs are kept to a
    minimum
  • Hanks on the luff as before – the only modification that may be
    required is a small shortening of the luff length

Halyard swivel

  • Halyard swivels are readily available for wires sizes from 5-7mm
  • This means you can use your existing genoa halyard system
  • It also means the genoa can be hoisted / lowered as usual

Windage

  • A wire forestay will be smaller diameter that the composite
    equivalent which means better upwind performance.
  • Although there is a trade-off between weight and windage

 

 Benefits of composite structural forestays

Karver KF2 furler

 

Weight

  • A composite stay will normally be 70-80% lighter than the wire equivalent

Wear

  • A composite cable is kinder on your sail during the furl

Strength

  • Composite structural rigging cables are specified based on stiffness, so that the mast behaves in the same way regardless of rigging material. As a by-product of specifying based on stiffness, the strength of a composite cable is generally 3-4 times stronger than the equivalent wire, thereby increasing safety factors

 

 Custom torsional stiffness / strength

  • The torsional stiffness and strength required to effectively furl a sail varies depending on sail area, and designed max wind speed of the sail
  • Composite structural cables are custom designed, and the torsional stiffness can be varied depending on the specific requirements of the boat and sail.

 

Conclusion

Wire structural furling forestays are common on dinghy’s / sports boats and there are many, simple, lightweight and competitively priced systems available on the market for 3-5mm diameter wire.

 

5-7mm diameter wire sees a transition to keelboats from approx. 23ft – 34ft where all the specialist furling manufacturers offer wire furling forestay solutions.

 

8mm wire is the transition. It is still feasible to operate a wire furling forestay but this is the point most manufacturers recommend a transition to composite forestays

 

If you have a 10mm diameter wire forestay or bigger (38-40ft+ boat), then you will require a composite torsional cable to handle the torsional loads required.

 

Q: Could you use a composite forestay on a 27ft boat with a 6mm forestay?

A: You could but it is generally cost prohibitive. The cost of a custom torsional cable (at this size) normally doubles the cost of the package!

 

If you would like to know more about structural furling forestays – download our guide or if you have an enquiry contact us here.

 

 

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